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Hiromoon
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It's supposed to be the future, Kristovich.... this is supposing that the AK4 was fully replaced by the AK5.
And the information comes from the internet, ranging from country's military sites to wikipedia information.
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Rick
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| Quote: | Infantry 2012 - the New Australian Battalion
In order to meet the demands of complex warfighting the Australian Army will initiate a significant restructure of the infantry battalion. The new ˜modular" battalion will replace the current conventional battalion structure that is effectively unchanged since the end of WW1. Unlike previous restructures like the ˜Pentropic" or A21 experiments the new changes are focused on the lower levels of the battalion to improve flexibility and suppressive firepower.
Principle of Four
The number four will be a dominant theme in the new battalion with each team made up of four people and each command level - battalion, company, platoon having four sub-units. The principle of four has been identified as a consistent theme in infantry. Having four elements enables a unit to simultaneously fix, assault, echelon and provide a reserve. In non-linear operations four also enables all directions to be covered. Having four sub-units provides a commander more flexibility in manoeuvring.
˜Arms Room" Approach
The new infantry structure will relay heavily on the ‘Arms Room’ approach in which more weapon and equipment types are made available than can be used. This enables the commander to determine what weapons and equipment are needed for particular operational and tactical demands. For example a support weapon operator will have a choice of weapons, either a specialised anti-tank weapon or a another system that is less lethal against tanks but more effective in fire suppression or a target. This principle currently used by Direct Fire Support Weapon (DFSW) platoons will be extended to most elements of the new battalion.
Team based structure
The building block of the new battalion will be a ˜brick" or team of four soldiers, all combat elements of the battalion will be based around bricks so they can easily double as low intensity conflict foot patrols. The basic brick will be the Infantry Team consisting of a team leader, Light Support Weapon (LSW) operator (armed with a 5.56mm Minimi LSW), grenadier (armed with a 40mm genade launcher attachment to his basic assault rifle) and a marksman (with extra sighting options for his assault rifle). Each platoon will have six Infantry Teams normally organised as three sections, with senior team leader doubling as section leader.
MS Teams
The new addition to the platoon will be three Manoeuvre Support (MS) Teams normally organised as a single section in the barracks. Each MS Team will have a team leader, support weapon operator, grenadier and sharpshooter and will be able to carry out all the tasks of an Infantry Team. However the MS Team will have more powerful weapons and will generally operate in the fire suppression role. The support weapon operator in each team will be armed with a 7.62mm MAG-58 general-purpose machinegun and the sharpshooter with a semi-automatic 7.62mm sniper rifle. As part of the ˜arms room" approach the three MS teams will also have two additional heavy weapons to draw upon if needed. These will be one 12.7mm heavy machinegun and one 40mm automatic grenade launcher and their required tripods. To provide mobility to the MS Teams with their heavy weapons and ammunition each team in a light infantry battalion will also receive a small, lightweight vehicle like the para-deployable Supacat 6x6 Mk III All Terrain Mobile Platform (ATMP). Supacats are very lightweight, compact vehicles able to carry 1,000kg of load in a variety of configurations. They are limited to a top speed of 60kph but their low weight and small footprint make them easily deployable.
Modularity
The flexibility of the new structure will be best seen in the way the MS Teams are deployed, either as their own section per platoon or by adding one team to each infantry section or even grouping all the MS Teams at company level as a very powerful MS Platoon under command of the Company Weapons Sergeant. The MS Teams will use the appropriate weapon for each particular situation and mission and provide a major boost to the platoon’s combat power. The final team in each platoon will be a four-person command team with the platoon leader, sergeant, signaller and medic. |
This bit is on the future Aussie organisations, it's from Ivan Rapnikov on the Armchair Generals forum.
Vehicles are the wheeled Bushmaster for Infantry, ASLAV-25 and ASLAV-APC for Cavalry, and I think the Mechanised Infantry are either staying in M113's or going for either ASLAV's or Bushmasters.
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Hiromoon
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| Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'll see what I can find, Rick, but anything with 'Armchair General' causes me to be a wee bit doubious. 
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Chiwie
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Australian Army
(im going to attempt to guess with what sources i have there 2015ish gear...  )
Weapons
Assault Rifles:
F88A4 (Steyr AUG with multiple picattinny rails for attaching all kinds of fun)
AICW (F88A4 with Metal Storm 40mm GL..... very nice and nasty bit of kit)
M4 Carbine (SASR/Commando spec ops, seems to always have M203, Scope, laser disg. and the odd sliencer)
M16 (SASR/Commando spec ops, lots of M203s here to)
Pistols:
Browning Hi-Power pistol
Sniper Rifles:
SR-98 (Accuracy International AW sniper rifle)
AW50F (.50 cal BMG of above rifle, used for anti material work)
Support Weapons / Machine Guns:
F89 Minimi (two per Infantry section)
FN MAG 58
Anti-Tank:
M72 Light Armour Weapon
84 mm Carl Gustav Medium Range Anti-Armour Weapon (MRAAW)
Javelin Anti-Tank Guided Missile (ATGM)
Ground Vehicles
Tanks:
APCs / IFVs:
ASLAV (LAV/Stryker made for Australian conditions)
Bushmaster
M113 APC
Tanks
Leopard 1 MBT
M1A1-D (AIM)
Transports:
Land Rover
Aircraft
Airplanes:
F-35 (or maybe F-22..... if we are lucky US dept of tech is considering)
F-18 (to be phased out by F-35)
F-111 (to be phased out by F-35)
Helicopters:
ARH Tiger
S-70A Blackhawk
CH-47 Chinook
Eurocopter MRH-9
Unmanned:
Skylark
I-View 250
Infantry Networking Systems (eg Land Warrior, FIST etc)
LAND 125 Soldier Combat System
that was easier than i thought! *thanks god for Wikipedia drawing all this info into one place*
for minis
http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=591_592&sort=3a
Australian Disruptive Pattern Camouflage Uniform (DPCU)
Australian Desert Pattern Uniform (abbrev. ADPU)
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Martin
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| Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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The Australians have just taken delivery of their first Abrams M1A1 MBT
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Chiwie
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| Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Martin wrote: | | The Australians have just taken delivery of their first Abrams M1A1 MBT |
huzzah for us, too bad the NT bridges cant support them..... There a MASSIVE improvement over our Leo 1s thou!  |
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Kristovich
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| Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Hiromoon wrote: | | It's supposed to be the future, Kristovich.... this is supposing that the AK4 was fully replaced by the AK5. |
I wouldn't be to sure. The AK5 have a tendency of jamming and messing around, and it uses 5.56mm, the AK4 on the other hand is a good weapon; accurate up to 300m with standard sights, not likely to jam or otherwise mess up as opposed to the AK5 and it uses 7.62mm rounds. And I've read that plans have been laid up for another 10 years of service for the AK4.
Not sure if all of that will make any difference in-game though.
| Hiromoon wrote: | | And the information comes from the internet, ranging from country's military sites to wikipedia information. |
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byram
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Black Scorpion Minis are 30mm scale, they are about the size of a LAMI trooper 
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Sikil
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Kristovich wrote: | Still like these lists. Escpecally the Swedish one 
Just wondering, where do you get all the info?
And you forgot the AK4 in Swedish assault rifles... |
AK4 (7.62mm automatic rifle, mag holds 20 bullets, don't know what the "true" manufacturer or name is) is mainly (only?) used by "Nationella Insatsstyrkan", the Swedish version of US reserve. And even they are starting to convert to the AK5, as the higher caliber doesn't do enouth differance. (5.56mm or 7.62mm will still not stop a heavy vehicle, civilian or military unless you hit a "soft spot" like the drivers head).
To stop a truck and such we have AG90... (12.7mm MP round has ALOT better stoping power)
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Kristovich
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I'm pretty sure I've read that the AK4 will be having another decade of service, but I could be wrong though.
Anyway, I like these lists and I appreciate that Hiromoon has taken time to put them together. |
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Sikil
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Kristovich wrote: | Well, I'm pretty sure I've read that the AK4 will be having another decade of service, but I could be wrong though.
Anyway, I like these lists and I appreciate that Hiromoon has taken time to put them together. |
The lists are cool...
Well... The Kpist m/45 should have left service last year, but alas...
Orders and contra-orders is all we get in the logistic branch of Försvarsmakten.
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Kristovich
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Appears so  |
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Inquisitor
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| good job guys, great reading and info... outstanding thread |
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Hiromoon
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Mwahahaha. Work on the russian one will continue afte I do some research.
Also, using the BF:Ev engine, I'm working on an Occult Skirmish game.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| Chiwie wrote: |
Australian Army
(im going to attempt to guess with what sources i have there 2015ish gear... )
Weapons
Assault Rifles:
F88A4 (Steyr AUG with multiple picattinny rails for attaching all kinds of fun)
AICW (F88A4 with Metal Storm 40mm GL..... very nice and nasty bit of kit)
M4 Carbine (SASR/Commando spec ops, seems to always have M203, Scope, laser disg. and the odd sliencer)
M16 (SASR/Commando spec ops, lots of M203s here to)
Pistols:
Browning Hi-Power pistol
Sniper Rifles:
SR-98 (Accuracy International AW sniper rifle)
AW50F (.50 cal BMG of above rifle, used for anti material work)
Support Weapons / Machine Guns:
F89 Minimi (two per Infantry section)
FN MAG 58
Anti-Tank:
M72 Light Armour Weapon
84 mm Carl Gustav Medium Range Anti-Armour Weapon (MRAAW)
Javelin Anti-Tank Guided Missile (ATGM)
Ground Vehicles
Tanks:
APCs / IFVs:
ASLAV (LAV/Stryker made for Australian conditions)
Bushmaster
M113 APC
Tanks
Leopard 1 MBT
M1A1-D (AIM)
Transports:
Land Rover
Aircraft
Airplanes:
F-35 (or maybe F-22..... if we are lucky US dept of tech is considering)
F-18 (to be phased out by F-35)
F-111 (to be phased out by F-35)
Helicopters:
ARH Tiger
S-70A Blackhawk
CH-47 Chinook
Eurocopter MRH-9
Unmanned:
Skylark
I-View 250
Infantry Networking Systems (eg Land Warrior, FIST etc)
LAND 125 Soldier Combat System
that was easier than i thought! *thanks god for Wikipedia drawing all this info into one place*
for minis
http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=591_592&sort=3a
Australian Disruptive Pattern Camouflage Uniform (DPCU)
Australian Desert Pattern Uniform (abbrev. ADPU)
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Thanks dude! I'll definatly use this stuff and army badge, the minis though might just be BFE brits converted and some appropriate brits from the assualtgroup and eureka minis .
Maybe even a battle of australian(or maybe ANZAC) forces versus alien invaders
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